It’s the industry that’s taken the investment world by storm. And Canadians are leading the way thanks to the legalization of marijuana for personal use. You can essentially become a seller/dealer of Mary Jane in legal fashion. Oh how times have changed.
Many Canadian investors have already made a lot of money off of this Sweet Leaf as Ozzy Osbourne sang. He actually sang “I love you sweet leaf” for Black Sabbath. I grew up in a neighbourhood where the Sweet Leaf and Black Sabbath were very popular. I stuck to listening to Black Sabbath and playing Sabbath in a rock band. Ya, I think we played Sweet Leaf in front of our high school. I discovered I was too paranoid to smoke the stuff.
Come on now, try it outStraight people don’t know, what you’re about
They put you down and shut you out
You gave to me a new belief
And soon the world will love you sweet leaf – Ozzy
These are more than risky.
The legality risks to ‘dealing’ pot have certainly disappeared. You can simply (legally) buy the stocks or funds. The industry as a whole carries incredible risks as it’s in the beginning stages. But there is incredible potential.. A Financial Post article and BMO suggested …
The growth potential for the industry is incredible. The problem is it is an industry and an investment that is built on hope. Everything is a projection and an estimate of future profits. Companies have to make real profits and growing profits over the longer term to make monies for an investor. With almost all of the Cannabis companies there are no current profits. If you invest, you invest in companies that mostly lose money.
And today, to know where to place your pot of monies is a wild guess. We have no idea as to what companies will survive and if they will make profits. In this video from The Financial Post Greg Taylor a portfolio manager and Cannabis expert from Purpose Investments suggests …
We have no numbers to deal with right now, nothing to go on … There’s too many players in the Canadian market.
Here’s the short-term returns history for the Purpose Marijuana Opportunities Fund. Inception date was January of 2018. Yes it’s quite impressive.
But keep in mind that any profits for investors were created by way of buying that hope at $1000 and selling that hope for $1600. Investors have been willing to pay more for hope. And profits may certainly arrive. You might be of the opinion that if sector projections are somewhat accurate that profits will arrive for many of the players. The thing is we don’t know who will survive. That’s why perhaps buying a market index fund or a managed fund makes a lot of sense. At least you’d be buying the potential of the total sector.
Horizons offers pot stocks and dividends?
You might suggest ‘Dale are you sure you have not been smoking some of that stuff?’ No, but it’s true Horizons delivers a dividend from a Cannabis fund where the underlying companies largely do not make profits and do not pay dividends. They can create dividends as they loan your stocks to short sellers. There are many who will bet against these companies and sector.
Here’s the link to the Horizons Marijuana Life Sciences Index Fund.
This certainly gives new meaning to the term ‘Yield’. The distribution yield at the time of the latest fund fact report in December of 2018 was 4.5%. And yes, the Purpose Fund also pays a distribution. At least you get paid to wait for real profits.
And the returns history for the Horizons fund has also been more than impressive.
But we can see that it has been quite the wild roller coaster ride. I’d invite you to read this post that details the adventures of a novice investor who embraced Cannabis Stocks. Here’s 10 Things I Learned as a Novice Investor Investing in Weed Stocks.
This was investing on steroids, but I was still the skinny kid getting sand kicked on him at the beach. I made some good trades. I made some bad trades. I celebrated. I cursed myself. Grey hairs accumulated. This is what I learned trading weed stocks as a rookie investor.
What I learned from investing in a sector without profits.
I’ve been here before. When I started to invest real monies it was at the beginning of the dot.com era, yes the beginning of the internet and internet-related companies. We did not care if companies made monies, we analyzed companies based on eyeballs – how many clicks are they getting? I kid you not. Profits were not important. Sound familiar?
It did not end well. When ‘how much you making’ became a serious question again, tech heavy indices fell by some 80%-90%. In the end, and again, it will come down to real profits.
It’s not up to me to tell you how much to invest in this nascent sector. But know thyself. And know the risks. You might keep any speculative investment (based on hope) to a very modest level. Many would suggest only invest monies you’re prepared to lose. And you don’t have to be an early investor. Heck, you might even wait until enough of them make a profit.
As you can see from the snip below (apologies for the low quality image), the sector did collapse. We’re still looking for real earnings. What a crazy ride, man.
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Cheryl at The Lifestyle Digs
Pot stocks aren’t my thing but I read an article two years ago that recommended everyone should have some in their portfolio. I wasn’t convinced but I bought 100 shares of Aphria @ $5.40 anyway figuring I could take a loss if it went south. It’s so far out of my investing goals, I’m a dividend investor and Aphria doesn’t pay them. But it was kind of fun watching the stock go up and up in the last half of 2017. All the way to $23 in January 2018. And then it took a nosedive and it goes up and down, always staying higher than where I bought in at. Now there’s a hostile takeover in the works. They want to buy our shares at $7 something each, when they’ve been trading lately in the $12 to $13 range.
I have no interest in buying any more weed stocks. Just have my little piece in my portfolio so I can say I have it.
I’m a set it and forget it investor but this Aphria just keeps on giving and won’t let me forget I own it! Overall it’s been kind of a fun roller coaster ride.
This is my first experience with a hostile takeover. What do you suppose the chances are the shareholders are going to vote yes to sell at a loss? Should I get out now?
Dale Roberts
Thanks Cheryl, that’s an interesting little ride. Ya, I doubt anyone will vote for selling at a discount unless enough larger inside owners and management has a ‘deal’ worked out somehow on future payouts for share offerings of new company. Lots of shady crap can go on of course. Hanging around or not is a personal decision of course. And it sounds like this is play money? And if you want that dividend, you can buy that Horizon fund, ha.
Jude M.
Yup I own, but like most, not a lot. Just enough to say that I didn’t miss the gravy train. It’s a new sector that’s not going to go away. And, if the black market was problematic for law enforcement and was thriving pre-legalization (and still is), then it “should” thrive post-legalization – I mean…eventually. Demand can be seen by line ups out the door of some of these so-called legal pot shops. So, I’m certainly holding for the long term. Horizon’s HMMJ.TO is the best way to play the cannabis sector.
Dale Roberts
Thanks Jude. I hear ya. An investor might then begin to add more in a meaningful way when there are real profits and real ‘visibility’. OK, mostly real profits. This is an exciting new sub sector for sure. I think one of the companies even entered the tsx composite in last reshuffle.
Darin Diehl
I always ask is investing in any one specific area better then a broad market fund or ETF? Also – at the end of the year – what is one’s total return across all investments? A better approach vs focusing on how much return one gets from a single bet IMO.
Dale Roberts
Thanks Darin, I agree. Stock picks or sub sector bets might be used sparingly. Often you’ll hear the suggestion that one keep their speculative bets to 5-10% of portfolio assets. We might also use the phrase ‘play money’. I often hear investors use that one. Ha. I stopped playing with my money a long time ago, and only invest in companies that make a lot of money 🙂
If we want the potential to beat the market, we might embrace a growth sector or factor based ETF.
Thanks for stopping by.
Dale
Dale Roberts
Ironically I saw the CEO of Cronus suggest that we treat these Cannabis companies like tech start ups. Yikes. Cronos has a company value of $9 billion and quarterly revenues (that declined) at less than $5 million.
That’s a big hope gap.
This may take a while.
Dale
My Past Lives
This makes me think of the other comment I was looking at
http://www.wallpaperdisk.com/profile/glenheadlam
It’s great that you are getting thoughts from
this post as well as from our discussion made at this place.